AFF Suzuki Cup today :
Philippines - Cambodia , 4 pm ( 5 pm Philippines)
Laos - Timor Leste , 6.30 pm (8.30 pm Philippines)
Livestream : www.bet365.com (need to register)and http://www.fromsport.com/
Livescores : www.futbol24.com and www.spbolive.com
Cambodia news , visit Cambodian football blog or Kingdom of Football
Philippines qualify with a draw or a win against Cambodia !
Good luck !
Update from Cedelf Tupas in Laos :
GK Neil Etheridge
DF David Basa, Aly Borromeo, Rob Gier, Anton del Rosario
MF Rey Jonnson, Roel Gener, Manny Ott, James Younghusband
FW Phil Younghusband, Ian Araneta
Chieffy Caligdong hasn't fully recovered from the groin injury he suffered against Laos yet and might come in as substitute. De Jong is suspended after picking up his second yellow against Laos.
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Predict the result !
ReplyDeletewatch the game at www.bet365.com
ReplyDeletePhilippines 3 - 1 Cambodia
ReplyDeletePhilippines Starting XI
ReplyDeleteDF David Basa, Aly Borromeo, Rob Gier, Anton del Rosario
MF Rey Jonnson, Roel Gener, Manny Ott, James Younghusband
FW Phil Younghusband, Ian Araneta
Chieffy Caligdong hasn't fully recovered from the groin injury he suffered against Laos yet and might come in as substitute. De Jong is suspended after picking up his second yellow against Laos.
CEDELF
oops. sorry forgot about Neil Etheridge on goal.
ReplyDeleteCEDELF
Come on Cambodia...
ReplyDeleteThanks Cedelf , Im at work and cant watch livestream today !
ReplyDeleteLivescore got 0-0 after 10 mins
ReplyDelete0-0 after 30 mins. Report from anyone watching the match on livestream ?
ReplyDeletefree kick for cambodia, following fooul from basa on the edge of penalty box, right side. yellow card.
ReplyDeleteshot hits bar, etheridge makes save. sloppy play from philippines off the counter, attacking opportunity wasted. philippine defense leaking
ReplyDeletecambodia picking azkals defense apart, but couldn't complete plays, thanks to good defending on one hand, and luck on the other. 38th min: RP loses ball on left sideline
ReplyDeleteeither Philippines is playing too cautiously or reserving its big guns for the second half. 40th minute. (poor livestream from www.bet365.com)
ReplyDeletedel rosario throw in from right side toward penalty box, cleared by cambodia defense. midfield collects ball, passes to james who makes attempt. goalie scrambles for the loose ball, as cambodia counters at 42nd min. right winger picks up ball from edge of box but wastes chance as ball goes nowhere
ReplyDeleteas defense foils RP attack. two minutes added time
ReplyDeletescary first half for the philippines. cambodia finding its way too often inside the danger zone. defense too languid, often panicky
ReplyDeletefinal attempt from right cross cleared inside RP penalty box. cambodia makes final say in first half.
ReplyDeletephilippines allowing cambodia too many runs along the sidelines and too many crosses inside the box. once, the left back was nutmegged, leading to a foul near goal line outside penalty box, which netted the defender a yellow card.
ReplyDeletecambodia's wingers tend to catch fullbacks flatfooted, a concern mcmenemy must address. however, cambodia also exposes itself to counters, with RP a bit unlucky. around the 40th minute, younghusband takes a cannon of a shot some 30 meters from goal but hits fellow striker smack in the groin.
it is a puzzle why the azkals cannot counter the cambodians efficiently, considering that the latter are on all out attack mode
ReplyDeleteetheridge comes out the box, as left striker streaks toward goal and manages to take ball past him, but goalkeeper lunges in time to get hold of the ball (49th min)
ReplyDeletecambodia creates a string of passes and midfield attempts a throughball from the right. offside. (50th). caligdong in, basa out (51st). RP in more attacking mode.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the updates
ReplyDeletearaneta heads free kick from neil etheridge toward caligdong's path inside the box, but nothing comes out of it. nice play, though
ReplyDeleteCambodia forum got another livestream :
ReplyDeletehttp://www.fromsport.com/
both sides exchanging long balls. araneta clears. cambodia ball (54th)
ReplyDeletecorner from philippines. phil down, writhing in pain.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.fromsport.com/v-0/8/120/v-92112.html
ReplyDeletethanks jonny
ReplyDeletenice build up from Azkals but james blasts shot off its orbit. what a waste
ReplyDeletei just want it to be full time 0-0.
ReplyDeletethis is going to be a long 15 minutes
ReplyDeleteNeil Etheridge! the best!
ReplyDelete0-0 , 5 mins left
ReplyDeletearaneta out, bersales in (88th). goals, anyone?
ReplyDeletethe strikers are a mess. no clear set-play
ReplyDeletethe azkals seem determined to settle with a draw. four minutes added time
ReplyDeletesee-saw battle. cambodia not done yet, but azkals in promising counter attack play
ReplyDeletefinally a nice shot from phil
ReplyDeletealmost a goal from the Azkals. full time 0-0. Azkals advance!!!!
ReplyDeletetheir counter attacks were crap
ReplyDeleteCONGRATULATIONS AZKALS!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteQualification!! It's a sure thing, right, no matter what happens to the 2nd match? It's just a matter of placing?
ReplyDeleteyep, RP needs only a draw to qualify.
ReplyDeleteyounghusbands were both winded out. they really need to get match fit! i hope they both go back to england and find a proper team. forget that modelling crap.... it made both of them a mess!
ReplyDeletewe stay first unless Laos beats Timor by 6 :) but if they beat Timor by 3 clear goals. Cambodia are out.
ReplyDeletegreat job philippines! sayang lang the counter attacks we could've killed it.
Congrats to the Azkals! I know this may not mean much to some and a lot to others so I'll just state this matter-of-factly: The results from this qualification group probably means that the Azkals have a good chance to break the 150 barrier with regard to the FIFA rankings.
ReplyDeleteI hope I can go to either Indonesia or Vietnam for the main tournament!
The last few minutes were incredibly tense. Our counter attacks were rushed in my opinion, and I found Ott to be particularly wasteful. What do you guys think?
ReplyDeletelooks like we're going to play our group games at Indonesia. Against the likes of Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia. (yikes
ReplyDeletekaya yan! yeah! our rankings should be 140+ by november!
the rankings are important. it is important for the morale of the team and Philippine football community, as well as for qualification requirements. if rankings weren't that important, would you rather check a list where RP is 195th or 140th? imagine what nice words one would have for a 195th ranked RP team. let's not apologize for climbing up the ranks.
ReplyDeleteThats right, I go for the good rankings also...
ReplyDeleteIm sure that negative guy will react to this, just wait when e gets online a read this... be prepare people.hahahaha
thats right, to the anonymous guy on top. i know some spoil sport party pooper here will say that it aint important and is misleading... but cmon... try looking at the bigger picture now. it will be much easier to sell it to the public if our ranking is a lot pleasing... like 140th or 130th. lets keep climbing up!
ReplyDeletewhen will the updated rankings table come out?
Laos - Timor Leste 1-1 after 10 mins
ReplyDeleteLaos - Timor Leste 2-1 after 15 mins
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, congratulations to the Philippines for qualifying for the Suzuki Cup!
ReplyDeleteWith regards to the FIFA rankings, the next update is on 17 November. I'm not not not gonna say much about it. All I will say is that it is almost certain or even 100% certain that the Philippines will get another increase. So, an early well done to them for that.
However, it is a common misconception within the Philippine football community (if that's the right term), that the FIFA rankings is used as the main measuring stick to measure the improvement/progress or the lack of, of the national team and even Philippine football in general since local football is connected with the national team. That shouldn't be the case. Even Mari Martinez has used the excuse of the Philippines' rise in the ranking to justify his "contributions" in "helping" Philippine football. You need to be a little more open minded than that and look at the bigger picture to see the actual scenario. That's all. That's not bashing, that's not hating and that's not being negative.
Just to add, with the regards to the tournament proper of the Suzuki Cup, don't expect too much because for these qualifiers, it seems the expectations were already a bit high. As you should know, the Philippines' chances of making any sort of significant impact at the tournament isn't realistic yet. The aim should be to be as competitive as possible and anything more than that would be a bonus. And once again, that is not hating, that is not bashing and that is not being negative.
Bravo mr.hasthisbeentaken! Haha.
ReplyDeleteWell i dont use our ranking to gauge our improvement. U have to admit that our improvement will help convince or entice corporations to invest in football yeah?
Laos - Timor Leste 5-1 after 60 mins, another goal and Laos win group
ReplyDelete@Clockworks...
ReplyDeleteYou may not but as I've said, most people do which included Mari Martinez. It shouldn't be that way. That is also why in the FIFA ranking topic, I've said what I've said in questioning peoples over the top reactions.
They go over the top and use it as a barometer to say/prove (or whatever word is applicable) the progress and/or improvement of the national team and even Philippine football in general.
Although to a certain extent it can be used but for the most part it shouldn't.
Laos just scored a 6th goal. They top the group! Philippines going to Vietnam which would probably be easier for them to be competitive.
Yes. Philippines will probably be second in group and face Vietnam , Singapore and Myanmar. Maybe better than the other group
ReplyDeleteLaos - Timor Leste 6-1 FT . Laos top group , Philippines second
ReplyDeleteBlessing in disguise na second lang tayo sa standings. At least may "big" chance tayo against Myanmar. With regards sa Vietnam (defending champion) and Singapore (almost lahat naturalized foreigners) medyo mahihirapan tayo. Nonetheless, my prayers are for our team! Hope makapunta din ako sa Vietnam para makapanood.
ReplyDeleteI love you HasThisBeenTaken! Cge ikaw na magaling.
ReplyDeleteWill the yellow cards from this game still be "active" when the AFF Suzuki Cup Main tournament starts?
ReplyDelete^^From what I remember hearing from the commentator during the match against Cambodia, the yellow cards do carry over to the final tournament.
ReplyDeleteIf that is really true, that means Del Rosario, Ott and Etheridge are all suspended for the opening game against Singapore.
Losing Del Rosario and Ott for one game isn't much of a loss to be honest but Etheridge? Not good!
Schrock's papers should be processed by December surely. So he'll take Anton's place which is an improvement since he is also a RB. I'm also hoping Chris Greatwich would be available as well. And I hope they can find a solution to Jerry Lucena's situation. If we can get him, that would be massive!
@ the other anonymous person....
ReplyDeleteUmmm..... OK! hehehe!
It all depends on the clubs, if they will release the players in December. De Jongs club released him now, so there is a chance.
ReplyDeleteWhen it comes to Jerry, kinda hard to tell really. Does Chris Greatwich still play? Last i heard is that he works in the US. They should get the Greatwich brothers if possible and if theyre fit. Phil Greatwich can play instead of Del Rosario and you got Ray on the other side. Thats not bad, in case Schrock cant make it.
Im not really impressed by some of the fil-foreigners in this qualifier, but hey, it can only get better right. I wonder what the plans are now until the main tournament.
I feel we got lucky this time. But we will take what is given to us. Lol
The foreign based pinoys have done a tremendous job. If i had my way only borromeo, caligdong,araneta and del rosario wil be retained. The rest of the locals just dont cut it.
ReplyDeleteAs for neil etheridge - when did he receive a 1st yellow? I thought last night was the only yellow?
I hope they can convince the Greatwich bros to play. We lack quality coming off the bench.
^^Agreed! Especially if you take into consideration the system their playing and the fact that some of them are playing a different position or role. I think McMenemy also has the same sentiments since it was quite apparent that he wasn't really keen on playing the other locals during the qualifiers.
ReplyDeleteEtheridge got his first yellow against Laos.
As for the Greatwich bros, I think the most realistic one we can get would be Chris. Both Phil and Simon have their commitments to their respective colleges, both for academics and their soccer teams as the NCAA men's soccer is in season right now.
And to answer the anonymous person above.....
Chris Greatwich plays for Morris County Colonials in New Jersey, USA. An amateur team playing in the highest amateur league, the NPSL. But apparently he's also a full-time coach with the club, as he coaches their U-20 team. Although, I'm not sure if he's still attached to them or not.
And I'd just like to ask why you weren't impressed with the foreign based players? Granted, the entire team wasn't that great but they did the best they could especially with the circumstances such as the system and roles they played.
@clockwork
ReplyDeleteSorry, but thats just plain stupid. The real future of Philippine football is actually local players if the PFF and etc manage to get their acts together. Who knows how long Palami will support the team, and when he is gone, who will step up and finance the team? We cant depend on some rich guy for all eternity. We need changes. Dont say we need Palami as president, coz we dont really know what kind of role he wants. Maybe the role he has now is what suits him best and what he wants.
Yes those local guys you mentioned are good, but there are actually talented players in the Philippines who can evolve and be better than them. The recruitment of fil-foreigners is only a quick fix. Not all of them will be available, and if Palami wasnt around, would they be playing? Not sure.
@HasThis...
Still a possibility that they can play if their team is out of the playoffs, the Greatwich brothers i mean. That would give the team a boost.
As for what im not satisfied with. Well, i thought they could do better. Neil was great, but players like Ott, and specially Ray didnt impress at all. I had big expactiations when it comes to Ray. He didnt contribute much.
Ott was like a kid playing with the bigger guys. He needs to toughen up a lot. In the physical aspects of the game, he doesnt quite have it yet, im talking about international games. It will be a lot tougher in December, and what he showed wont cut it a bit. I had no expactations to the Younghusbands coz they havent been playing games for 2 years, and that can really set you back. But theyve stayed in shape with their academy and workouts. Phil is still far away from his best form, hopefully he will regain some of his form from years ago. We will need a Phil Y in top shape in December. Jason De Jong tried and tried. Maybe CM isnt the position for him.
Thats just my person view on how i see things. I feel we got lucky. But there are always room for improvement. Hopefully the management has a good plan for the following months.
Well like I said, they did their best given the circumstances. Most of them were playing different roles.
ReplyDeleteDe Jong & Ott -
They were the central midfield pairing in a flat four midfield. That's a 20 & 18 year old, both inexperienced and also lightweight. Because of that and along with the tactics set out by McMenemy, both De Jong and Ott had to play slightly more defensive midfield roles which they're both not really used to. They definitely did their best. And for me De Jong should be playing out wide.
Gier -
He's a right back and McMenemy played him as a center back, meaning he's out of position. It's quite obvious that he wasn't that comfortable playing that role and you can't exactly fault him for that.
Younghusband bros. -
Like you said, they don't play club football anymore and they're out of form and shape. More so with Phil since he was playing through injury and hasn't been involved with the national team since May 2008. However, they're still two of the better players that can be called up for the national team.
Jonsson -
I'm actually surprised your expectations of him were high. I've said this before, he's only semi-pro playing in the Icelandic league and is also on wrong side of 30. He's also a fullback, so you wouldn't really expect him to contribute that much offensively. He was definitely trying to make things happen but it was also his teammates that didn't do him any favors. For me, Jonsson along with Etheridge were the most consistent players.
Etheridge -
Definitely good. It was his defenders that let him down at times.
To top it all off, I don't think they've gelled yet as a team.
So again, they did their best given the circumstances but I also believe they got a bit lucky. Like McMenemy said, they got overconfident for the Laos match after beating Timor-Leste and it showed but managed to qualify nonetheless.
I beg to disagree on some of the assessment on Ray Jonnson. He was actually one of the most consistent performers in the qualifiers. He was effective going forward and was cool and composed on defense. We need him back for December. Ray also plays multiple positions and I think we can put him at central midfield to add more toughness and some experience in that position. Manny Ott said Schrock plays right wing and right back so it will be interesting how he'll be utilized. Probably James Younghusband can move to the center to pair up with Jonnson and make way for Schrock. So that leaves us with the critical leftback position.
ReplyDeleteOur back four needs more protection from the midfield which they didn't get most of the time in the qualifiers. We're lacking pace. It wasn't that obvious in the qualifiers because we were bigger, but in Vietnam that weakness will be very evident. I hope we work on that in the next three weeks. I hope to see everyone in Hanoi. hahaha. Good luck to our team. -CEDELF
That's what I said about Jonsson. Him along with Etheridge were the most consistent.
ReplyDeleteBut why would you want to put Jonsson at center mid when we don't have any other good defenders around? He's also one of the few who has any sort of pace. So he needs to be kept as a LB.
James Y. and Jonsson as a center mid pairing?? I'm sorry but that's horrible! The team will get sliced open time and time again with that midfield.
Schrock can play right wing but he mainly plays as a right back for his club. De Jong should play wide right and perhaps James Y. to play in the center since De Jong has looked better playing there. Plus he has a bit of pace.
They also need to recall the likes of Chris Greatwich and also show more effort and enthusiasm in getting players like Lucena and Wolf.
I'm a diehard football fun now. I've lived in Thailand for 3 years and watched live football matches here. I do think that the Philippines must improve the way it play esp against Sing. on Dec. 2. I always think were ahead of other asian countries in terms of hardwork and perseverance. Sadly were influenced by basketball and that hinders the progress of Phil football.
ReplyDeleteIf Phil can pull a success with these tournaments that would be very rewarding...
My insights:
1. The Phil must and should control the ball, that is the most and critical part in football in which our team really lacks. Controlling the ball later create goal chances and at the main time provides additional defense.
2. I was able to watch Phil latest performance and I would say the defense is awful. I mean, the defender should communicate properly to the goalkeeper and to prevent goals the squad should pressure the offenses instead of just being defensive.
3. The squad should learn to control emotions and try to improve the ability to block the ball.
Were the underdogs against Sing but I'm certain that Phil performance will go to distance if we work really hard. We filipinos are very hardworking individuals and playing football is just part of it. That is the difference between other teams