In the end, the Azkals did not have enough bite.
The Philippine national football team fell to Singapore, 1-nil, to lose by the same score on aggregate and end its journey in the ASEAN Football Federation Suzuki Cup Wednesday at the Jalan Besar Stadium in the city-state.
The Azkals came into the match with high hopes after battling the Lions to a nil-nil draw in Manila last Saturday. But Singapore showed its fangs early in the match, as Khairul Amri scored off a set piece at the 19th minute after catching the Philippine defense napping, breaking the Azkals’ three-match clean sheet streak.
Singapore continued to dominate most of the first half, controlling possession as the Philippines played sloppy football, before the Azkals showed some signs of life just before the break.
Things seemed to turn around for the Azkals in the second half, controlling the possession and building up their offense better. Chieffy Caligdong and Demitrius Omphroy came on as substitutes to try to stir things up for the Azkals, but were still unable to get the equalizing goal that could have carried the squad to the semifinals.
Azkals coach Hans Michael Weiss threw caution to the wind late in the match, subbing in forward Denis Wolf for defender Carli De Murga and playing with just three men on defense in a last-ditch effort to score. But luck didn’t smile on the Azkals despite numerous chances late.
Singapore, a two-time champion of the tournament, advances to the final against the winner of the other semifinal series between Thailand and Malaysia.
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Weiss should bring in Chris Greatwitch rather than Wolf. Philippines may have the chance.
ReplyDeleteWe are already getting banged up with clear lessons and we don't seem to learn to "do the hard right from the easy wrong".
ReplyDeleteWith all due respect to the foreign-trained Filipino players, I think that we've taken the wrong path in terms of long-term establishment of a solid football development. Even if, say we won this match, or the whole tournament, there is no doubt in my mind that the Azkals staff would still be employing the same "recruitment-development" the core of which is reliance on these athletes from abroad.We refuse to let go of the obvious wrong because it seems right at the moment without any regard for the future.
Absolute waste of resources that impacts the campaign for better developed local players as a whole. I thought Dan Palami's got it together after some years of being in charge. Time to stop being so engrossed with potential profits from the "marketability" of good-looking players -- time to focus more on substantive long-term investments in potential local players who you can MANAGE more efficiently, monitor more closely, and just KNOW inside and out.
There's a lot out there, out here in-country. These locals deserve a look. See, if the line up in that team were the ideal local-players line up, regardless of the result, we'd have invested on the exposure of these players and a clearer more DEFINITIVE template on what to do with these players going forward in our plans. Instead, look at where we are at right now? How do you nurture players that aren't even around?
There is a need for some drastic shift in the way PFF handle this football journey.
Look, you flood this site of your long essay saying stuff that you are clearly outdated with info. Grassroots program has just started all over the country training kids starting astound as 6 y/o and also football academies are starting to take place as well as pitches. So you are clearly unaware of the development in training locals. But for the moment as these newly trained kids are still growing up we have no one, no production if you will yet from these grassroots program. Is you take out these players now, we have no one. Wait another 5-10 years before these newly trained kids are ready. For the meantime stop flooding this site with your outdated idea.
DeleteThey've been saying the same thing for a long time now, bud. 17 out of the 23 int he line up doesn't support that argument. You are in denial but I'll give to you, if that is your excuse for not giving our locals the chance at being out there in the mix, okay, let's go with that. The grassroots program has not started properly yet. It's going to have to now if they picked up from this. Ive known folks who've been involved in some little ways with other grassroots programs in asia. None of these programs took to recruiting foreign-trained players. But maybe you're right, we should wait 5 to 10 more years doing this type of thing.
Delete12 Dec 18:58, is that you Johny? C'mon man.
Deleteyou are clearly missing the point of 18:58. He is telling you to wait 5-10 years as these kids grow up and be able to represent the country. lol. It's true by the way. Who do we really have right now who can be at a decent level without falling face first, i'm talking about at the present time also. The truth is that once the team starts failing even to qualifiers football will be back into its "caveman" days; no interest, no private enterprise support (which some people are don't understand the importance of having private enterprise supporting the team as it is not allowed to have government intervention as FIFA rules), and basically back in the "whipping boys" status again. Look there are many kids playing football all around the country now and surely a group will be representing the nation given time, but this is what we have now, again AT THE MOMENT, to sustain the interest and maintain some respectability in the region. No one is saying to rely solely and not develop homegrown talents as that is just a complete defeat of a purpose in having a solid team for generations to come. football clubs are even doing than and so no logic in saying that we should not develop our own. But for the moment, like many are arguing, while there is no body else yet who can step up and maintain our dignity/respectability in any competition, this is what we got. Wait 5-10 years when Sandro and his counterparts buds and don the national color.
DeleteOf course I get what he is trying to say. I got a high school deploma and and I can do simple arithmetec.
Delete5-10 years is what Dan Palami, Weiss, maybe you, and the poster 18:58 saw when they traveld through time and lived beyond the present. LoL.
But Mr Palami is tbe business genius character that rolls the dice and gets the price. A good gambler. A risk-taker. Profit innovator. The theory of probability works in favor of this man and his European footlings. 5 to 10 years of random phenomena, a win here, a lose there, win there, the collective result will most certainly yield to overall success.
10 years later the only only one who profits is the very same man who have designed it all. The money or "bankroll" fairy tale story? LoL. What he got in return has more than quadrupled and with huge potential for more $. Exactly the reason why he insists on his system and he insists on having full control of running the Azals program. The Filipino athlete is the same "whipping boy", seated way out back, as in back seat 10 rows behind, that backseat.
We got whupped in this current set up. In the first-half alone only one home-bred Filipino player got in the starting line up --- Sacapano. And we still face-planted it, hard! Obviously tne objective was to win and not to loose. But lost we did, and in an embarassing fashion, at least in my book. Where is the dignity in our current losing to Singapore? We lost the game and then some. We lost RESPECT. That wasnt a national team built to promote a growing NATIONAL TEAM. That team was worse than a team hastily put together on a Sunday afternoon out in tbe park for a pick up match. LoL. Did you see the line up of the "miracle" Azkals team in the 2010 Suzuki Cup? That was decent. That was necessary.
Pare, when these kids grow 10 years from now, it would be the same story. They still wouldnt be good enough. The foreign trained Filipinos would still be better than them, absolutely. The odds will continue to get stacked up on the local homeboy football player: too short, not too charming in front of the camera, too dark, too skinny, english not "proper". But always the assessment fast forward 10 years from now between these two kinds of players will be in favor of the foreign-bred who "have the experience", an experience and proper football exposure that the true Filipino player would have gotten 10 yrs ago.
It aint gonna happen. 5 to 10 years from now you and I would still be talking about this issues.
Its not going to happen. Just simple math alone and
I understand all these rationale about "jacking up" the image of our football by using players that have been exposed with solid foundations elsewhere, but could you imagine if we'd have fielded mostly players, young ones with decent potential, in this tournament and the campaign and training camps leading up to it? Sure we might not have had a clear shot at the trophy but who needs that right now when you know you've gained precious experience with these local players and have a better handle and control of these players moving forward long-terms? If we'd have lost with 17 local-trained players out of 23, as a coach or manager, you know you have something you take away with you there in terms of GROWTH and IMPROVEMENT.
ReplyDeleteWe have nothing right now. We blew all that chance. More importantly we DENIED our boys here that chance.
Greetings from California!
DeleteI have to respectfully disagree with the views of Anonymous of 12 Dec, 19:24.
I hope you realize that PFF did not deny our local boys a chance, as a matter of fact there is mix of locals and foreign trained Filipinos on the original call-up list.
Please check your stats and history. PFF and Coca Cola tried and failed the local-born approach for the last 25 years. It was also discovered that the Philippine football program cannot be competitive internationally with that approach. It was also revealed that if there was no public interest, the program will have a hard time sustaining itself.
If you need to revive the program in the country, you need a team that is marketable and will generate interest. It makes business sense for PFF to generate funds to sustain its goals. The football program from the 70's, through the early 2000's did not project a strong marketing image, failed to generate strong public interest, and did not sustain itself. Thus, we became the "Whipping boys of Asia."
If you ask Manny Pangilinan or Bob Arum how to run a sports program, you will probably discover the profitability of a global marketing approach to develop certain projects (including local and foreign trained players). This leads to a higher probability of winning, marketability and sustainability.
On hindsight, lets not forget to congratulate Mr.Dan Palami, Coach Weiss and all the Azkals who gave their best for the 2012 Suzuki Cup endeavor. Semi finals twice in two years? That's pretty impressive considering our country had a weak football program before that. Go Azkals!
How are you there in California, thanks for your reply.
ReplyDeleteI’m in Cebu and I’m a High School teacher. I have to take advantage of this conversation because I feel that there is substance in this. First of all I think it’s clear that the PFF will never discriminate against local-based players and for sure looking out for what’s good for our football programs. I have a tiny scenario to share, just a tiny presumption regarding what could have been done and what should have worked better:
Two teams – this team with this line up now vs. a team created 2 years ago, majority local-based players, decent ones, potential players that are at the right age. If all of our efforts were put in this second team from day one, all resources poured into facilitating they get the best training (food, shelter, strength and conditioning, allowances), best coaching staff, and a clear and simple objective of having this one team play together and grow as a team, all two years long day-in-day-out of football and training camps, the same group of people. In two years like this, with enough exposure to play out there leading up to the tournament, I think this team can be “competitive” enough. As a matter of fact, if we pit these two line ups against each other for a match, we can determine clearly that the one team who’s together for a while is better. There is no way the current line up will match up that team. On ball possession alone (which is the core most important part of football), a team that has been together for a long time and trained in all conditions together, would always, always have the advantage over a team that have individuals that hardly know each other. This current scheme is just not going to work. Im sure in California, as well here in the Philippines, as with other teams anywhere, the schools that succeed mostly college or high school are the ones that have more veteran players in them (seniors) – because they have played for such a long time and know each other. Structurally it makes sense.
You are so right about the previous programs we had – they didn’t work. The main problems there lie in so many things, majority of which had mostly nothing to do with players, but the management culture of footballing back then. Or just plain and simple, culture. I was there. We’ve been offered a opportunity for a shift in that culture and that’s a very good thing, and we are actually doing something about it; But are we doing enough or are we doing smart decisions in trying to fix things?
I get that, global marketing economics and marketability for sustainment. And there lies the trouble with our approach. What we are doing is INVENTING solutions by employing these Filipinos who are already trained abroad. Sure that will work, temporarily. But that’s gonna get old. If I were CEO of a company right now and I have limited resources, why should I invest in inventions? Most big time companies that have made it to the big leagues did not prosper because of inventions. They did because of INNOVATIONS.
Innovation is the name of the game, sir/ma’am.
guys ibahin niyo ang smart gilas ha or basketball. sa football the young ones get their experience sa youth system. having two teams is too costly and a waste of time. youth system lang.
DeleteThe second team I mentioned here is an "imaginary" team lang naman ho. Pinag kukumpara ko lang itong team natin ngayon na to versus kung mayroon tayong totoo na team na gawa sa makahulugang systema. Ang katwiran ko, tatalunin ang sa ngayong azkals line up na ito nga "imaginary" ideal team sinasabi ko.
DeleteJust Like Dan Palami said before. "Its my money, I get to choose where to spend it". For the first poster, you can put your money on grassroots if you want.
ReplyDeleteThat's part of the problem! Palami goes around as if he owns the national team or whatever else just because he's got the money! National team committee head who also happens to be the financier and team manager of the national team while being a regional FA president, owner and team manager of his own club..... takes the piss big time!!! The national team needs new management, simple as!!
Deleteeveryone has an AGENDA!
DeleteAll the comments here about football development in our country is rubbish.
ReplyDeleteDo you see any long comments when articles in about local league or tournament?
No one is intetested in the local league but just care about Azkals as they are good looking and can brings the goods.
This is call glory hunting not development.
First of all you think this guys would one to play for us if they can represent their real country.
Our no 12 is out of the indian club.
Yet yesterday he was still playing.
Plain bullshit to put someone without a club in the team.
a lot of the comments here are just knee jerk reactions. typical reactionary pinoy mentality.
ReplyDeleteThis!!
DeleteI agree with the first post that locally base players are the ones that should be in the National team as European based players are not reliable because of their club contracts. the experiment that Dan Palami wants to established still didn't impress our neighbors sans the rankings but the silverware is most important at this stage not the friendlies or outstanding performance as this is not Grassroots Football anymore.. and for those people who doesn't like our comments, this is an open forum and we love our national team that's why we have some inputs unlike you who hates to read comments when you lose.
ReplyDeletedpat may youth development league ang dpat na ipromote ng pff hindi yung puro recruit na lang marami ang magagaling sa probensya d lng nila nkikita sana sa league magsimula sa provincial tapos regional at national dba maganda dapat yan ang tutukan ng pff at mvp sana yung ipinamudmud ng smart ay dun na lang gastusin kaysa sa recruit ng recruit time at resource wasting puro politika pinaiiral........
Deletemga ulol tlaga bulok ang sistema.......
ReplyDeleteit's time na magkaroon ng youth football league u14 para mahasa ung gling ng mga kabataang pinoy sana pff at mvp tutukan nla to d sapat ang kasibulan kc 1 to 2,3,4 days lang tapos na basic lng yan para nanamang pba yan puro fil-for na lng ang nglalaro nkakadimaya.........
ReplyDeletecoca cola football leagues and PFF youth program is not a failure but is was mishandle...this two entities only help to promote the sports and become nationawide tournament...what it lacking is the development of the provincial coaches on how to train there student the proper, more tactical, more technical on how to play football....ive been a member for the coca cola go for goal....there are seminars but only once a year....development is not that easy what PFF is lacking before is the structure of who is first to train...for me the provincial coaches, how to improve their coaching skills (dribble, defense, offense, goalie)....that is lacking that is why it didnt succeed dont point fingers and vote for foreign base players as the solution...PFF should sit down and discuss future solid plans for a long term solution....indeed they have youth programs and under 18, 16, 14 kids sanction by PFF but to only few who avail it mentioning it is in manila only....but this so called teen azkals were been defeated by the provincial selection now do you see the difference....we need the foreign base to gain homewgrown youth players but PFF should recognize and sweat blood to develop this kids.
ReplyDeleteJust reading these comments from the Filipinos makes me laugh. You people are talking as if you have failed greatly, forgetting what an achievement already this from your NT to reach the semis. Filipino footie fans are probably delusional or have Alzheimer's thinking they have been a powerhouse for many years. Get a real sense of things people. Don't forget that you have only rised up since 2 years ago. Sorry the we have beaten you in the semis, but it was a hard fought game, and you all should be proud of the turn around that your NT has achieved. Remember that prior to 2 years ago your NT is a shit. That's a fact. This is what our coach has been saying, so as Sing footie fans, that we get the vibe that the Filipino fans, media, whoever else, are not giving us enough respect as if they are sure to book the Finals, looking past semis already. Now what happened??? You all have to put things in perspective and curtail you irrational expectations as if you are to rule the competition already. Truthfully, I like for the Philippines to succeed create a different dynamic in the AFF competitions as the same players are vying for the title biannually. But really, you people are expecting to reach the moon already withouth even a proper spaceship training. Gotta get things in the right perspective and make sensible expectations, otherwise shit lie this will continue to happen and you all say bitter words towards each other. Set egos aside and false expertise and look within yourselves and evaluate what you can contribute positively towards the progress of your football. I did not realize, except when I discover this site, that there are many football experts in the Philippines. I am quite surprised that the Phil NT has been in the lowest rank of football in the world with so many experts. Do you see what I mean??? I suggests, you build on this loss and learn how to support your team better, via curtail your great/irrational expectation to a sensible degree, because you fans are putting way too much bad pressure on your team. In other words, be a real fan and support your team sincerely win or lose. So much bashing and non-productive criticism on here when you lose and always sees the negative and not build on the positives. Be a true fan. I must admit that we quite admire your passion, but put it in the right perspective. You see, we may seem like we don't give a shit about our Lions but when calls on us to be one, we deliver and so as the team.
ReplyDeleteJust like any other family, we have our own little discrepancies. But we will sort ourselves out. When we need an expert advice from Singapore, we will ask for it. Besides, you are not that good don't flatter yourselves. You guys just got LUCKY!
DeleteThanks for your insights. Now, get back in your teams locker room and resume giving them massages and hand jobs. STH up!
sore loser. that's a fact... it doesn't matter how many games you win in friendlies because that don't mean shit. Filipino suck dicks... that's for sure. just like family??? I do not think family should behave the way you dogs do. family your ass. you can't say "just like family" because family got each others back, WIN or LOSE. look at yourselves blaming here and there. sore losers and fake ass. well not all of you of course, but you and your boy bands. hahaha. sore losers. Hey how about you deliver first before you expect something grand. look at yourselves sore losers. Actually, you have every reason to seek advice from Singapore and that's from every aspect of everything; economy, sports, etc... Pinoy pride, is that what you pug nose call it, is the biggest reason why you are failing up to this day (not talking about football exclusively here) but yeah keep your pride shit... how about you get back into the losers locker room and get drilled in the ass by your foreign studs. I know you like anything foreign to get your behind. Suck it. Losers!!!! I like one of your "family member", as you like to call it, called your team "Azfail". Yeah way to go dysfunctional family. How do you like your backstabbing family now??? Yeah you like that backstabbing deal... Sore Losers. Friendlies Champs.... That's what your team is good at.
DeleteYou shit. We win American idol!!! No singaporeno has ever done that. You dont even have civil wars in Singapoor. See, we can fight! Where is your country located anyway? Not even in tne map!
DeleteOi, Hindi tayo manalo po. Lol. Si Philippe yata yun nanalo. Pero pwede na yan. Cge banat an mo pa yang Intsik na yan. Hahahahaha. Amoy curry yan. Hahahahaha.
DeleteSingapore does not have culture of sport. They think they do but nah-a. That country's DNA is shopping and grocery and curry, that's it. Boring. That little prick up there yapping about shit, his name is "Nakalelehymsksha Kapatswashnifafa" a singaporeano cricket fanatic. You in the wrong place, stud muffin!
Delete"delivel filst befol you say something gland"
ReplyDeletehe means:
"deliver first before you say something grand"