JAKARTA (4 Nov 2011) – The Philippines might have lost to Vietnam last night but there was no doubt who was the star of the show – and he is none other than custodian Roland Muller.
The Germany-based Muller, made a string of excellent saves including several point blank shots and one-to-one situations against Vietnam captain Pham Thanh Luong, to deny their opponent more than the 3-1 win they conceded in the opening match of Group B.
And while there were concerns at the start of the tie that Muller (pix) might not be able to fill in the shoes of Neil Etheride, the 20-year-old proved that he can only get better as the tournament progresses.
“Muller was excellent in the game. If it had not been for him, we would have been punished with several more goals,” said Philippines chief coach Michael Weiss.
“The problem with us in the game against Vietnam was the fact that we had several players who were still jet-lagged from their long flight (from Europe) and that was the reason why they could not play at the optimum level.”
The five players who joined the Philippines squad directly from their base in Europe were Manny Ott, Mark Hartmann and his brother Mattew James, Carlos De Murga and also Joshua Beloya.
“This is certainly a lesson for us in as far as getting players well ahead of competition schedule. Also the different weather condition between Indonesia and Europe was also a factor,” added Weiss.
But I hope that we can improve from this game and keep our campaign on track.”
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"The five players who joined the Philippines squad directly from their base in Europe were Manny Ott, Mark Hartmann and his brother Mattew James, Carlos De Murga and also Joshua Beloya."
ReplyDeleteNot correct , Hartmanns and Beloya are based in Philippines...
Should not be surprised that somebody have jetlag when they arrive the day before the match ! Why come so late?
Muller for GK No. 1 position in senior NT!!!!
ReplyDeleteoh really? JET LAG MY ASS TELL THAT TO THE LATE COMER MANNY OTT!
ReplyDeletepalusot lang ang jetlag na yan pag ang kots ay banban!
ReplyDeletesisihin ba naman ang mga players sa kabanbanan niya!
pwe!
Herr Weiss is wise enough to know that Euro-based players arrive so late because that's the way international football works for any NT coach who wants to pull players from overseas commitments in the middle of their domestic season.
ReplyDeleteThis situation won't change so it's best to stop these lame excuses and just accept either his coaching style isn't working or the squad he's got simply hasn't yet got the quality to win any medals.
sinabi ko na noon hinde kailangan na kumuha kapa nanng european base player para manalo sa tournament.ang kailangan magandang programa.1or2 years palang magbuo na nang team,i train nang mabuti.hinde yung 2months na ang tournament tsaka bobuo nang team.
ReplyDeleteit's quite simple: the squad hasn't the quality for the best two teams in the group. I guess more than a 3rd place in the group stage isn't possible. we are still underdogs in the SEA region....and the 2-0 of the senior team last year vs. Vietnam was great but probably an lucky incident which won't happen so fast anymore.....still a lot of work to do and sweat and blood to be shed
ReplyDeleteagree. we are still far from most of our neighbor countries and to expect an overnight change is foolish. some writers write as if the loss was unexpected when in fact if you have been following filipino football, we are not yet in the level of the top 5 southeast asian football powers. we are now probably a bit better than cambodia, myanmar and laos and thats it. the more people think and comment negatively about the coach and the players, the more we will not improve in this game or any game for that matter. look at basketball- a game we like to think we are excellent. we are still calling coach to roman ban ban. wtf?
ReplyDeleteteach our players to be patient and not always play long balls...it is not basketball that there is "24 second" shot clock...just be patient...and everything will follow...
ReplyDeletePag talo ang Pilipinas naglalabasan ang mga magagaling.
ReplyDeleteno, we arent a bit better than cambodia, myanmar and laos. those countries can still whip the azkals asses if we field a team with local players.even against myanmar in myanmar, when azkals fielded a strong team, they still ran over us like we were school boys.
ReplyDeleteits only the azkals who have improved, not the local football scene even with the new "professional" league UFL.
Shouldn't blame local players for not being up to the standard we'd like. No young talent can grow if the grassroots don't. Even the 'maintained' pitches used in the UFL Cup would never have been tolerated in any developed football country and even Lionel Messi would have looked untalented.
ReplyDeleteUntil enough decent surfaces are provided in every city and town in the land there's no chance of any promising young player developing the finer skills necessary to reach serious competition level.
"Pag talo ang Pilipinas naglalabasan ang mga magagaling."
ReplyDeleteOo nga! Kapag talo labasan lahat tapos sisisihin si ganito dahil hindi daw ginawa yung ganito o yung ganon etc.
Tapos kapag panalo, baliktad naman, maglalabasan parin lahat pero ngayon sasabihin naman na sobrang galing nila tapos ipagyayabang yung team kung kanino as if na one of the best sila.
Napaka fickle ng mga "fans". Fickle nga dahil wala naman alam! Sila yung mga tipong nakikisakay lang dahil sikat yung team.
bad bad football. those player need to hold themselves accountable from the git-go.
ReplyDeletethey didn't play for country there. no sense of urgency. nothing. no heart. nothing. plenty of weisscuses, this coach.
ReplyDeleteput a lid on it already!! ffs!
ReplyDelete"git-go". lol!!
excuses again. did manny ott felt jet lag when he scored the goal? did muller felt it when he stopped the balls? i think only de murga is the one with jet lag, which well, it showed - unnecessary yellow card. haha.
ReplyDelete^^What kind of idiotic line of thinking is that?!? That just proves you and other people like you love to point fingers just for the sake it without any sort of rationale!
ReplyDeleteI mean, yes Manny Ott scored and it doesn't mean he wasn't jet lagged! Same for Muller, he made lots of fine saves, it doesn't mean he wasn't jet lagged. If you're jet lagged it doesn't you're paralyzed or anything like that, since that's the line of thinking you have which is absolute horse shit to say the least!
Again, for you and people like you, JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!! Clearly the only thing that comes out of your mouths is crap!!!
here's more crap. our team played like crap. the playersall crap, except for the keeper that took all the crap. anyone who thinks that backline deserves a second chance, crap. but they can un-crap this if they all take their heads out of their crap holes, especially the coach.
ReplyDeleteSandugo ikaw nga maglaro
ReplyDeleteWala pa tayo sa level nang Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore at Malaysia. Naguumpisa pa lang tayo. Kahit sinong coach ilagay mo dyan kung ang skill level e mababa olats pa rin. Tingnan na lang percentage nang ball possesion 80% against 20% mga obobs. Kung gusto nyong magcoach padala kayong resume sa PFF.
ReplyDelete^^Finally, someone with a brain!
ReplyDeleteim just a fan like you, stud muffin. i can say whatever the hell i want like most of us here. that's coz we're all fans. if i wasnt and im in that team, i wouldnt g a f just like these yahoos dont g a f. all sense, its just u n me n the rest of us likes in this riddle, honey. fans. i dont know, 20 yrs ago i wouldve taken u up on that offer. but man, this foreign-based players recruitment is gon git old one day, i hope sooner. the kids will get fed up with this crap and painfully evolve into a raging competitive skillfull player with enough to back him/herself up to block any outside intervention. this SEAG platform would have been a great idea to bring out younger homeheads for exposure. sure the line up right now boasts of "experience", but that crap ain't never doing us any good long term wise. the kids n the youth, bud, think of the current grassroots state, if we even have one at the national level. there's no fucking program, and you and i know this.
ReplyDeleteby the way, re southeast asian neighbors cambodia, laos, vietnam, myanmar, thailand, they all have grassroots systems program set up. everybody ladidadi at the national level to education to the remote areas are involved. local players development in these countries from young age is the emphasis and they dont have to rely on primadonnas from the land of cindefuckingrella or what not. its been a while now and we have yet to come up with a natipnal program that would tie things in and put everybody in the same sheet of music. hey what about our youth? i mean isnt this what all these is all about?
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lol at sandugo feeling he's all gangster and shit with the type of language he uses! hahaha!! that's also probably why nobody can't take you seriously. you're a wannabe gangster that thinks he knowledgeable about football. sure you have the right to comment, but you're comments don't seem to be taken seriously, that holds true for me!
ReplyDeletethink of japan dudes! 1977 formalized a grassroots program, 1993 formed a league. 1998 joined the WC for the 1st time (lost all group stage games!) and in 2010 e.g. defeated Denmark 3-1 in SA. 30+ years to bring the to where they are now?! sound ideal but i think they are a good example for our grassroots program. if there is one PFF program really, ill rally my support behind. we will know no Kagawa, Hasebe or even Ohno if there is no JFA Academy Fukushima that came to mind.
ReplyDeletei dont know about gangster, gangstah.
ReplyDeleteu dont have to take me seriously broh. im just anthor punkass like u.
ReplyDeletesandugo, that guy is a world champion. he thinks he knows it all. he knows better than everyone. he is an expert, a world champion, a world champion in cussing. lol
ReplyDeleteim not a fan of the world wide hunt for filipino players, and i feel its a quick fix, eventhough it hasnt fixed anything yet for the U23 team. it has worked great for the mens national team, but the players they have on that team are a few notches better than those that have made the U23. i would still rate us behind the likes of myanmar and laos, even cambodia and brunei when it comes to development of local talents, grassroot programs and leagues. but the sport is growing, and people and companies are getting interested, so we will see in a few years. we are still years behind the rest of the SEA.
Poor SaNDugo... on fire with football fever and sincerity but usually sounding like a school bully to his classmates. You've got some very valid things to say but please try to use your fingers on your PC keyboard, not a sledgehammer.
ReplyDeletebut when is the time for PFF to put their heads together and build a youth system from scratch like these other countries had done? is there even anyone out there pushing for this. the main azkals team is like you said what it should be and im so for it. surely we cant miss out on the youth, our kids, man, what about their chances? they're not going anywhere unless the conditions and the chances are set up for them. this has to be by design and not chance victory here and there.
ReplyDeletesandugo, your comments are really good, i mean this, not sarcastically. u have a watchful set of eyes. there was heavy preparation for the 2005 SEA games, the PFF has put up tournaments across all the country - and culminates with the Philippine League (P. League) with representatives from different regions in the country - NCR, laguna, iloilo, negros occ, iligan and davao. that was in 2003/4. the eventual champion was negros vs NCR (ali borromeo, 2-1. the PFF National Training Center in Barotac Nuevo was also setup where palarong pambansa standouts were pooled for 2-3mos and in batches.the 2005 team made it its training field. the facility boasts of a good training field, dorms and PFF offices. it was inaugurated by Bin Hammam himself and Mari Martinez. sad to say, after the SEA Games, pinabayaan na. unpaid electric bills, dilapidated structure, uncut grass - naging miniforest na. the training pools were rejuvenated sa laguna pero nahinto naman. tas kumuha na lang ng Fil-foreigners. yun. that's our grassroots then. promising actually pero kinurakot lang ni martinez. hope the PFF now can rebuild the program. marami ang willing maglaro. marami gusto magtraining. marami ang untapped skills sa locals.
ReplyDeletethere you go, thank you, sir!
ReplyDeleteI sort of in the know about the earlier "grassroots" attempts and how they went south. i don't know if it's culture or straightout selfishness and greed but with the current PFF, if the same set up is done, it's pretty much going to be the same as what our government has done to it's people: screw us.
back in the early 80s my brother would talk out endlessly his sentiments about corruption and all kinds of bad politics in the Philippine football organization and I wouldn't be surprised at all in reference to what you told us about 2005 that this matter still prevails in the PFF. hopefully not anymore. but there are ways to avoid this, and this is maybe by being transparent and really deliberate in conducting the process of building.has the current PFF evolve into something different and better than the past? there's some big talk about this and that and the other from the PFF head honchos but nothing in the direction of clear and practical design that would cater to our youth; for pete's sake even just a rag tag study group to brainstorm and create some kind of a blue print that we all can look into and follow.
Maybe to avoid corruption the PFF can hire coaches and atheletic experts from other countries that have had the experience along these lines. we could even liaise with AFC or other football organization in asia just like what thailand, brunei, vietnam, laos, india, and a whole bunch of other countries in SEA are doing. they didn't have to be from europe or expensive or famous, just maybe old hands that know what they're doing and can train people and/or train the trainers.but by all means tasked exclusively with just that -- farm sytem training operations. These kids, and i'm not talking about just winners from our leagues, im referring to the even way younger ones starting from 9-10 yr olds. These are the gold mines! because football development has to start from a very young age. and playing everyday out there in the mud lot is not gonna cut it.
like I said earlier, without any tangible system set up for them, without anyone providing conditions for their growth, they'll end up like you and me, typing up comments in football blogs 15-20 yrs later, frustrated and pissed at the world. these kids need football norturing from people that really know the science of football training.and they're all over the world, everywhere. we can afford them, of course we can afford them. our youth need to be tested, evaluated, pitted against better teams, etc. constantly monitored in very short leashes, and once in a while rewarded when appropriate. you're absolutely spot on re marami ang willing maglaro! sayang lang.
hey good talking to ya. thanks for the great insights and good inputs. who knows maybe somebody in the PFF loop is reading and causing him to lose a couple minutes of sleep at night. who knows maybe he'll consider this as a legitimate cause for alarm.
bakla si sandugo..wag patulan
ReplyDeleteAgree with sandugo. Mag gagawa ako ng blog tungkol dito.
ReplyDeletesandugo i agree all your sentiments I thought the resurgent of football in this country is the resurgent or introduction of youth program....but no hanap pa ng halfs para ma fill ang void.....but that really sucks....wishing for the future of football.....
ReplyDeletebakla si sandugo..wag patulan
ReplyDeleteindi mo siguro naintindihan ang ibig nyang sabihin baka ikaw ang bakla kasi gusto mo mga tisoy and naglalaro.....
our locals plays suck (sa mga maniniwala) because they never tasted a foreign coach...even walang exposure to intertional coaches but still provincial players still dominated the palarong pambansa even manila has a lot of football schools with a foreign coach...ang masama manila pa ang madalas makuha sa national pool....hehehe
so provincial teams dominate the palarong pambansa. woopty doo! pinapalabas mo na parang sobrang taas ng level ng football tournament sa palarong pambansa na yun dapat ang basihan sa pagpili ng players para sa national team.
ReplyDeleteMind you, the Philippine U-16's AND U-19's which competed in this year's AFF U-16 AND U-19 C'ships respectively were filled with players outside of Luzon. Kaya tigilan mo na yung "dapat yung player na taga dito kasali sa national team", "dapat dito o doon kumuha ng player dahil mas magaling pa kay ganito".
like I said earlier, without any tangible system set up for them, without anyone providing conditions for their growth, they'll end up like you and me, typing up comments in football blogs 15-20 yrs later, frustrated and pissed at the world.
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