Typical Philippines. They can't seem to hang on after coming back from behind. Not surprising at all. People were underestimating Hong Kong since it was only their U-23's.
And to think people were going for a Philippines win, which includes that plonker who owns usapang football who was confident of a 3-0 win for the Philippines. Also, people think the defense is fine. lol!!
Where was I talking shit about the team?? I'm stating facts. You clearly can't handle it, too bad for you.
And that's the thing, it's not an 'A' international and yet the Philippines lost! It's not because the Philippines was their U-23's, it's the opponent that was the U-23 vs the senior squad of the Philippines.
I'm guessing you're one those people who voted on that poll for a Philippines win. If not, then I'm sure you were still believing in a Philippines win. lol!
Who cares if the opponents was U23. most of them probably play for the mens team and they play for the U23 to beef up the team and so that they can field the best possible team. im not crying over this loss. eventhough HK is not ranked a lot higher than the Philippines, it still shows that if a team is ranked only a few spots above us, they can still beat the crap out of our boys. thats the fun thing about the ranking system. it sucks.
Well, there you go. That's exactly my point. People need to get real. As you point out, Hong Kong aren't ranked that much higher than the Philippines (29 places higher), they can still thrash the Philippines even if it's the U-23's. But people still think it would've been a Philippines win such as the usapang football owner who thought it was going to be an easy 3-0 Philippines win. Too many people use their hearts rather than their brains when predicting. It's ridiculous.
thats the filipino way man. rather than being realistic, they think big and have big dreams. some even think that they can qualify for the 2014 WC, coz anything is "possible".
Ya I know that, it's why I'm saying it's ridiculous! Someway or somehow, they need to be real and start using their thick heads rather than their hearts! And the Philippines qualifying for 2014?? NO FUCKING WAY! If that happens I'll get a sex change but that's not gonna happen because the Philippines will not get anywhere near qualifying for 2014 if they enter at all. Again, it's absolutely ridiculous stuff at times, it really is!
Anyway, so Phil Younghusband scored both goals.... nice. However, it doesn't count towards his official statistics since it's not an 'A' international, which is a shame.
all critics seems not really fair.. if it is true how it is written on PFSA.biz that Philippines dominated the game.
Seems attacking is the problem, so defense tries to equalize this weakness and has maybe to much forward power, also Philippines missed match practices since 2 years, bec. of PFF president martinez. Fact is also, Phlipiines did play not w/ the best squad... also ray jonsson cld not play..
and to come back and to score the 2:2 shows the quality of the Phil NT.
Read statistics then you recognize HongKong is not so bad in apst month.. the ybeat japan and lost not so high vs Japan and China ! so the detractors should be more realistic.
To play vs U23 is maybe also more tough as to play vs old fashioned seniors of Hong Kong.
hey man we like to dream. same reason why a lot of filipinos still dream about basketball greatness when debacle after debacle that eventuality will never be a reality. i predict a philippines win over macau tommorow... 5-0. can you stop me?
and i just voted for a Philippines win on the polls.
why dont you tell me your handle... register get a user handle. so ill know who you are. and so i can stalk you online and really piss you off. especially if the philippines win.
i think i know who you are. yer one of those basketball fantards hey?
to play vs schools and minor clubs are other match practices as to play international games. you have adapt with speed, more coolness , more cleverness, everything on higher level and to adapt w/ circumstances of huger stadiums,
i agree... more international friendlies. on a regular basis. not 3 matches every 2 years. thats not gonna cut it. even our under 23 needs to get out there and get some experience. keep learing. RP under 23 should be doing what the HK under 23 is doing. playing against bigger teams. they should be participating in the asian games getting themselves known, learing, getting scouted, getting drafted, getting signed, being seen, admired. then they grow out of the Under 23 and join the senior mens team with a lot of experience, coolness, technic, strategy, heart, strength, speed.
Piss me off?? First of all I'm not pissed off and I never said I was. Second, it seems you're the one getting pissed off, its clearly showing! lol!
Who said I like basketball? Where'd you get that impression?!??! LOL! If I'm this basketball "fantard", do you really think I'd be wasting my time on this blog?!?! Think FFS!! And why bring basketball into this?? It's a whole different story with basketball. There's tons of money in basketball, Philippine basketball is professional, and believe it or not Philippine basketball is actually competitive internationally or at least on the Asian scene. So the basketball fan's dreams aren't just random pipe dreams, but dreams which they know has a chance to be fulfilled because there is structure in the local scene. It's the complete opposite in Philippine football. You can't compare the two one bit!
You can go predict whatever you want!! 5-0, 10-0, 20-0, go on have a blast! At the end of the day, when you're prediction turns out completely wrong especially when you're dead serious about it, then it's you that will be disappointed along with everybody else who dreamed too big too soon, not me! On top of that, it just makes you look bad. And that's what happened to the owner of usapang football. Honestly believing that the Philippines will win comfortably with a 3-0 scoreline. Just imagine what the Hong Kong fans would think if they knew a bunch of you honestly believed that would happen?? It also affects the other people who are actually being realistic! I can also dream big too, but at least I'm realistic and that these are big achievement which we all long for in football aren't attainable anytime soon. That's the difference!
About your latest post.... that's another thing. People need to understand that it's not just about having a ton of internationals every year. It's another common misconception in Philippine football. Majority seems to believe it's all about having more and more international matches for the Philippines to improve which can help but isn't the solution. You need to understand that in order to be competitive internationally the domestic scene must be competitive first and foremost. Until that happens, the quality of the national team won't get any higher and the ceiling will stay at a low level. And all this being scouted, getting signed, etc. won't happen as well. Personally, I already believe the national team has already reached it's ceiling.
Well said. The first thing that has to improve is the local scene. Some people think that climbing the rankings is the solution, but its not. You wont catch up with SEA powerhouses if you climb the rankings. Thats only pogi points. Everything has to change for the better in the Philippines, but at the current state of the sport, things has been going downhill. Everytime a new president is elected people think it will be so much better. But it will always remain the same. Thats the curse of Philippine football. The leaders.
The past few months there has been a "hunt" for filipinos abroad, to recruit them to play for the RP team. I admire the manager who is willing to help the team and run it profesionally. But how long will it last? What are the aims? If you want to qualify for a WC in the future, you will need more than a team of filipinos based abroad. You would have to need a strong, and structural plan in the Philippines. Everything has to improve and be more competitive. The fil-foreigners are only a quick fix.
I agree. We need a stronger domestic structure for football.
Any suggestions on how we can make that happen? What do we need? Do we need the right PFF President? If we back up Mr Dan Palami, the manager of the NT Squad, will it be a step in that direction?
I voted the for the Azkals to win of cors. Win or Loss I stiil believe in them.Why would I vote for Hongkong in football? If we are selling noodle here, then I will vote for them!!!!
Ive said this before and I will say it again. We need a professional domestic league. Even if we spend Billions on grassroot program and produce a possible 3 wayne rooney's on that program a year, that player will be a waist if we dont have a local domestic league. Where will this player grow after they reach 20? stay on grassroots?
The UFL is on the right track, it needs our support as fans. Sadly they dont air the games
No country without a domestic league will ever become successful. Thats a fact. What you need is to develop a plan to sustain it. Everyone who has played here knows we have produced some decent players. They just have no where else to go after college. With the economy starting to improve and foreign investment coming in, now is the best time to start. However, if football is not popular then we will never take off as the business side is just as important. We have to bring it to the level of at least boxing and billiards. Then money can start pouring in. And our players can earn a decent living.
Indeed the UFL is a step in the right direction. And it really needs our support, whether you are a bright-eyed naive optimist dreaming of 4-0 wins (and the World Cup!) or a jaded, callous pessimist who sees nothing but more disappointment down the road.
It's still pretty much an amateur league and the disparity in the quality of the squads are reflected in the lopsided scorelines.
The next few years shall see whether clubs can take the next logical step into becoming semi-professional entities. After that is accomplished, the professionalization of football would be the only logical conclusion provided there is a stronger, more binding relationship with the business community which in turn will not happen unless they are assured of a strong fan base.
I believe in the not too distant future the UFL will shift its priorities from league organization and club building to creating and maintaining a strong fan base because in the end it will be the passion of the fans that will determine the future of the UFL.
With plans underway for a UFL segment on Balls TV we should be seeing some fan growth.
I'm actually excited for the future of Philippine football. While years of disappointment has made me very skeptical of every PFF administration, Mr. Hagedorn and the organizers of the UFL have shown that when fans (especially rich, well connected fans) take matters into their own hands exciting things happen.
link to hong kong football forum please?
ReplyDeleteyup... cant find anything online.
ReplyDeletefinal score? should be over by now.
ReplyDeleteyeh common! what happened?..damnit definitely finished by now.
ReplyDeletewho won?
ReplyDeleteHK win 4-2 according to a post on FB which got the info from the HKFA site.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.hkfa.com/en/index.php
ReplyDeleteTypical Philippines. They can't seem to hang on after coming back from behind. Not surprising at all. People were underestimating Hong Kong since it was only their U-23's.
ReplyDeleteAnd to think people were going for a Philippines win, which includes that plonker who owns usapang football who was confident of a 3-0 win for the Philippines. Also, people think the defense is fine. lol!!
Hey, don't talk shit about the team just because they lost!
ReplyDeleteRemember, this isn't even an A-match.
Also, this failure would make us realize our mistakes and help us learn in time for the matches that really do count: the Suzuki Cup qualifiers.
Where was I talking shit about the team?? I'm stating facts. You clearly can't handle it, too bad for you.
ReplyDeleteAnd that's the thing, it's not an 'A' international and yet the Philippines lost! It's not because the Philippines was their U-23's, it's the opponent that was the U-23 vs the senior squad of the Philippines.
I'm guessing you're one those people who voted on that poll for a Philippines win. If not, then I'm sure you were still believing in a Philippines win. lol!
Who cares if the opponents was U23. most of them probably play for the mens team and they play for the U23 to beef up the team and so that they can field the best possible team. im not crying over this loss. eventhough HK is not ranked a lot higher than the Philippines, it still shows that if a team is ranked only a few spots above us, they can still beat the crap out of our boys. thats the fun thing about the ranking system. it sucks.
ReplyDeleteIf someone want to know who scored d goals in advance Phils...
ReplyDeleteview www.PFSA.biz
Well, there you go. That's exactly my point. People need to get real. As you point out, Hong Kong aren't ranked that much higher than the Philippines (29 places higher), they can still thrash the Philippines even if it's the U-23's. But people still think it would've been a Philippines win such as the usapang football owner who thought it was going to be an easy 3-0 Philippines win. Too many people use their hearts rather than their brains when predicting. It's ridiculous.
ReplyDeletethats the filipino way man. rather than being realistic, they think big and have big dreams. some even think that they can qualify for the 2014 WC, coz anything is "possible".
ReplyDeleteYa I know that, it's why I'm saying it's ridiculous! Someway or somehow, they need to be real and start using their thick heads rather than their hearts! And the Philippines qualifying for 2014?? NO FUCKING WAY! If that happens I'll get a sex change but that's not gonna happen because the Philippines will not get anywhere near qualifying for 2014 if they enter at all. Again, it's absolutely ridiculous stuff at times, it really is!
ReplyDeleteAnyway, so Phil Younghusband scored both goals.... nice. However, it doesn't count towards his official statistics since it's not an 'A' international, which is a shame.
all critics seems not really fair.. if it is true how it is written on PFSA.biz that Philippines dominated the game.
ReplyDeleteSeems attacking is the problem, so defense tries to equalize this weakness and has maybe to much forward power,
also Philippines missed match practices since 2 years, bec. of PFF president martinez.
Fact is also,
Phlipiines did play not w/ the best squad...
also ray jonsson cld not play..
and to come back and to score the 2:2 shows the quality of the Phil NT.
Read statistics then you recognize HongKong is not so bad in apst month..
the ybeat japan and lost not so high vs Japan and China !
so the detractors should be more realistic.
To play vs U23 is maybe also more tough as to play vs old fashioned seniors of Hong Kong.
sorry I mean, they beat India and lost not so high vs Japan and China !
ReplyDeleteso the detractors should be more realistic.
hey man we like to dream. same reason why a lot of filipinos still dream about basketball greatness when debacle after debacle that eventuality will never be a reality.
ReplyDeletei predict a philippines win over macau tommorow... 5-0. can you stop me?
the players missed 2 years of practice? come on PAUL, get real. they havent lacked anything. they play for their school and clubs. dumbass.
ReplyDeleteand i just voted for a Philippines win on the polls.
ReplyDeletewhy dont you tell me your handle... register get a user handle. so ill know who you are. and so i can stalk you online and really piss you off. especially if the philippines win.
i think i know who you are. yer one of those basketball fantards hey?
you talking to me? my last post was to PAUL the FRAUD. im sorry to say that im not a basketball fan.
ReplyDeleteanonymous talking to Paul - nope not you man. im talking about the one bagging our team and the owner of usapang football.
ReplyDeleteput a signature at the bottom of yer post so ill know whos who. hehehe
to play vs schools and minor clubs are other match practices as to play international games.
ReplyDeleteyou have adapt with speed, more coolness , more cleverness, everything on higher level and to adapt w/ circumstances of huger stadiums,
so phil nt players need some more internls.
i agree... more international friendlies. on a regular basis. not 3 matches every 2 years. thats not gonna cut it.
ReplyDeleteeven our under 23 needs to get out there and get some experience. keep learing. RP under 23 should be doing what the HK under 23 is doing. playing against bigger teams. they should be participating in the asian games getting themselves known, learing, getting scouted, getting drafted, getting signed, being seen, admired. then they grow out of the Under 23 and join the senior mens team with a lot of experience, coolness, technic, strategy, heart, strength, speed.
:)
ReplyDeleteDo you have the score for the other game from the same forum you followed this game from?
ReplyDeleteSorry, dont have the result Taiwan - Macau . I will post it when I get it..
ReplyDeleteFor some reason they don't seem to like the owner of Usapang Football.
ReplyDeleteI wonder what Louie did to these people.
Piss me off?? First of all I'm not pissed off and I never said I was. Second, it seems you're the one getting pissed off, its clearly showing! lol!
ReplyDeleteWho said I like basketball? Where'd you get that impression?!??! LOL! If I'm this basketball "fantard", do you really think I'd be wasting my time on this blog?!?! Think FFS!! And why bring basketball into this?? It's a whole different story with basketball. There's tons of money in basketball, Philippine basketball is professional, and believe it or not Philippine basketball is actually competitive internationally or at least on the Asian scene. So the basketball fan's dreams aren't just random pipe dreams, but dreams which they know has a chance to be fulfilled because there is structure in the local scene. It's the complete opposite in Philippine football. You can't compare the two one bit!
You can go predict whatever you want!! 5-0, 10-0, 20-0, go on have a blast! At the end of the day, when you're prediction turns out completely wrong especially when you're dead serious about it, then it's you that will be disappointed along with everybody else who dreamed too big too soon, not me! On top of that, it just makes you look bad. And that's what happened to the owner of usapang football. Honestly believing that the Philippines will win comfortably with a 3-0 scoreline. Just imagine what the Hong Kong fans would think if they knew a bunch of you honestly believed that would happen?? It also affects the other people who are actually being realistic! I can also dream big too, but at least I'm realistic and that these are big achievement which we all long for in football aren't attainable anytime soon. That's the difference!
About your latest post.... that's another thing. People need to understand that it's not just about having a ton of internationals every year. It's another common misconception in Philippine football. Majority seems to believe it's all about having more and more international matches for the Philippines to improve which can help but isn't the solution. You need to understand that in order to be competitive internationally the domestic scene must be competitive first and foremost. Until that happens, the quality of the national team won't get any higher and the ceiling will stay at a low level. And all this being scouted, getting signed, etc. won't happen as well. Personally, I already believe the national team has already reached it's ceiling.
Well said. The first thing that has to improve is the local scene. Some people think that climbing the rankings is the solution, but its not. You wont catch up with SEA powerhouses if you climb the rankings. Thats only pogi points. Everything has to change for the better in the Philippines, but at the current state of the sport, things has been going downhill. Everytime a new president is elected people think it will be so much better. But it will always remain the same. Thats the curse of Philippine football. The leaders.
ReplyDeleteThe past few months there has been a "hunt" for filipinos abroad, to recruit them to play for the RP team. I admire the manager who is willing to help the team and run it profesionally. But how long will it last? What are the aims? If you want to qualify for a WC in the future, you will need more than a team of filipinos based abroad. You would have to need a strong, and structural plan in the Philippines. Everything has to improve and be more competitive. The fil-foreigners are only a quick fix.
I agree. We need a stronger domestic structure for football.
ReplyDeleteAny suggestions on how we can make that happen? What do we need? Do we need the right PFF President? If we back up Mr Dan Palami, the manager of the NT Squad, will it be a step in that direction?
I voted the for the Azkals to win of cors. Win or Loss I stiil believe in them.Why would I vote for Hongkong in football? If we are selling noodle here, then I will vote for them!!!!
ReplyDeleteIve said this before and I will say it again. We need a professional domestic league. Even if we spend Billions on grassroot program and produce a possible 3 wayne rooney's on that program a year, that player will be a waist if we dont have a local domestic league. Where will this player grow after they reach 20? stay on grassroots?
ReplyDeleteThe UFL is on the right track, it needs our support as fans. Sadly they dont air the games
No country without a domestic league will ever become successful. Thats a fact. What you need is to develop a plan to sustain it. Everyone who has played here knows we have produced some decent players. They just have no where else to go after college. With the economy starting to improve and foreign investment coming in, now is the best time to start. However, if football is not popular then we will never take off as the business side is just as important. We have to bring it to the level of at least boxing and billiards. Then money can start pouring in. And our players can earn a decent living.
ReplyDeleteIndeed the UFL is a step in the right direction. And it really needs our support, whether you are a bright-eyed naive optimist dreaming of 4-0 wins (and the World Cup!) or a jaded, callous pessimist who sees nothing but more disappointment down the road.
ReplyDeleteIt's still pretty much an amateur league and the disparity in the quality of the squads are reflected in the lopsided scorelines.
The next few years shall see whether clubs can take the next logical step into becoming semi-professional entities. After that is accomplished, the professionalization of football would be the only logical conclusion provided there is a stronger, more binding relationship with the business community which in turn will not happen unless they are assured of a strong fan base.
I believe in the not too distant future the UFL will shift its priorities from league organization and club building to creating and maintaining a strong fan base because in the end it will be the passion of the fans that will determine the future of the UFL.
With plans underway for a UFL segment on Balls TV we should be seeing some fan growth.
I'm actually excited for the future of Philippine football. While years of disappointment has made me very skeptical of every PFF administration, Mr. Hagedorn and the organizers of the UFL have shown that when fans (especially rich, well connected fans) take matters into their own hands exciting things happen.
Up the UFL!
Up the Azkals!